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« on: January 10, 2010, 02:42:27 AM »

Have you visited any Tang Ki?

What deities are they a medium for?

Under what situations did you go and consult them and how has it / or has not help you?  (to be fair and honest)

Contact Details of this tang Ki that you are sharing on.

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 08:17:23 AM »

I would like to share with all of you something that is less known even to ppl who believes in Kang ki.

Do you know that the "beings" that enters & possesses mediums bodies are not the real god or deities, instead they are the representative or presentational of the real god & deities. For those ppls who has experience with various tang ki(s) would know that, the same god or deities would varies differently in different temples & different tang ki(s). I will explain that later on, if you are confused.

So who are those representative or presentational of the real god & deities? People like monks, priests, cultivated persons & people that do plenty of good deeds during their life, when they pass away they could be appointed to the various positions in the other realms (Hell, Heaven & Buddha land). They are then selected by the gods & deities to be their representative or presentational (代理/分身灵). Like agents representing the company or person. Besides choosing these appointed souls as the gods & deities representative or presentational (代理), enlightened spirits (精) could also be the right candidates. Then these representative will find the suitable person as the medium (Tang Ki or Ki Tang). There are also peoples that will also volunteer to be Tang Ki(s).

If you visits various temples with Tang ki(s), you will realizes that when the Tang ki(s) has represented or invited the same god/deities into their bodies, they will usually have very different characteristics, voice, props, even way of writing the talisman & etc. Some of the representatives that possesses the mediums are more powerful than others, that could because some of them have further their cultivation or has reach enlightenment. That's explains how it's possible to invite the same god at the same time in different temples. They are just the representative or presentational (代理) & not the real gods. Kang ki's are just like the gate of a portal or a media, if the protective procedures is not done properly, they could be possessed by wandering ghosts or other supernatural beings during the trance. They usually need to cleanse their bodies & protect the temple area to keep the unholy things at bay.

There are Tang Ki(s) that are real & authentic, they aims to relieve ppls that needs help. They will even help to heal & cure illness. And there are others that aims for fame & money. There is a possibilities whereby an authentic Tang ki will no longer be able to invite the god's representative because he/she has done something wrong or the body is no longer clean. Then it depend on the tang ki whether he/she wants to continue the service. If the tang ki wants to continue, he/she has to do a good show in front of the believers. I have seen such cases before. Some mediums that practices incorrectly (走火入魔) or their body is unclean, it's also possible that they even get possessed by supernatural beings & they act as though they are the real thing. Instead of helping people, they aim for being worship by the believers.

The most common deities or god of the mediums service in Singapore (in hokkien names):
Guan Di Ye (关羽/关公/关帝爷 there are other names for him)
Tua Ye Peh & Dee Ya Peh (大爷伯 & 二爷伯. They are the hell gods)
Dai Sheng Ya (大圣爷/齐天大圣/孙悟空/斗战圣佛)
Lian Hui San Tai Zi (那咤/莲花三太子)
Zai Zai (散财童子/红孩儿)
Guan Ying Ma (观世音菩萨/观音娘娘)
Tua Peh Gong (大伯公/福德正神/正财神)

In the past my family members used to go consult them frequently or whenever we are met with troubles or supernatural issues. Only a few of them are very helpful, some are not & many are con-man. So beware, stick to one temple if the medium service is good. Don't tell them too much of yourself or your problems. If the medium is fake, they will know how to make you believe in their in-genuine powers. Just like fortune-tellers, if you tell them too much, they will know how to handle you in order to make you believe they are damn accurate & let you believe in this & that.

My mum has been bring me to this temple called Po Ann Keng since I was a baby. I was very weak & always ill when I was young. She plead the god to accept as the god-son & only after a few tries then the god accepted me. Besides giving me talismens & providing blessing for my health, the old medium has a secret elixir that could cure most minor sickness. The medicine is very demanding among the believers & not easy to prepare. But when the old medium passed away, no one is taking over the preparations of this wonderful medicine. Until today, the temple has operated more than over 50 years & has make swift several times. Now it's residing at Tampines road. Along the stretch of temples. It's very near to where I stay & just opposite Tampines Ikea. The temple is a merge between three different temples, but Po Ann Keng has the biggest space of all. The main god of the temple is 齐天大圣, but not just one 大圣爷 but five. I was told that the center one is the real 齐天大圣, the other four is his subordinates (东天大圣, 南天大圣, 西天大圣 & 北天大圣). They are also in the form of the monkey god.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 09:10:47 AM »

Hi Bro Jetson

You are early !

I was plesantly surprised that you woke up this early on a Sunday morning.

Would also like to share a story with you and fellow friends here.

I have an auntie.

When she was younger, she lived in Msia where she married a waelthty good man, who is a practising surgeon in hospital.  A well known doctor !

They have everything. Luxury bungalow (with swimming pool), good food, good life and nice house !  In short, everything !

But my auntie just cannot conceived.

Under the recommendation of someone trustworthy, she went to this old lady medium that is a medium for Guan Yin.

This old medium lived in the dense forest , inside the cave to be precise.

The cave could have been attacked by wild boards and venomous snakes. According to my dad, whop woul dare to live in that cave? Needless to say, an old lady?

Upon arrival, when my auntie related her problem to the old lady in the hope of geting conceived and having a baby to sum up a good family, the old lady touched my aunties hands and felt her bones.  She fell into a trance and appeared 'sleepy and restless'

The old lady replied :'  Dont worry about offsprings.  In fact, worry about your life'   ... ..   " You should worry about how to save your life .. .. "

My auntie related those words to the rest of families when she was back hom to her maternal family.

Shortly after, she felt sick and was hospitalised.

Years later, she was diagnosed with cancer.

She migrated to Australia.

Years later, she passed away.

My auntie is a very very kind person but although rich, never forgets about the poor and less fortunate.  According to my dad, she woudl emply the needy (and ex patients of Mental Hospitals) to coem to her residences to do simple chores for her like gardening and changing the water of her pond and pool.  She knows that those ex patients , having a medicla record, wouldnt be able to find a job and is worried that they might , due to depression,  would once again affect their mental health.   hence, she created jobs for them.

Such kind lady..

My dad said that this old lady medium is really omnipotent.  A true expert.

My auntie has everything. A doting usband. A promising family.  A life of luxury and wealth.


But, the medium could tell that she has a 'danger' ahead of her and advised my auntie to be worried of her life  and not about conceiving.

This old lady is called ' Yuk Jie ' (in cantonese)



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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 06:10:43 PM »

Wow very informative leh. How you get to know it?

I got one relative which eventually became a medium, let me tell you all his story.

This guy was about 24 year old, one day when he was at home he made a very lucid dream, he dream of a deity flying down towards him. The deity told him that he wish to uses his body to help people. When he was awaken, he didn't take the dream into his mind & after few day he has almost forgotten about the dream.

Then about two week later, strange things happened. He was watching TV in the living room with her mother, then suddenly his body starts to sweat, than he starts to jerk & wiggle without control. He starts to feel that something is trying enter his body. When the deity has possessed him, he said he is the 红元帅 & he is fated with this person. He talks to the mother that he needs to uses his son to be his medium & to help the sufferings. The mother said that she do not want her son to be a medium & they have no money to setup a temple for him. The deity laughs & tell the mother not to worry. He gave the mother a 4D no, what amount & when to buy. He told her that when she has stroke the 4D, she must agrees to setup a temple for him & to let her son to be the medium. True indeed, the mother strike the 4D accurately a few day after. So she took the money to setup a small temple at an industry area. And slowly the son adapts to his fate as a medium.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 06:24:25 PM »

Its really a great exchange of real life encounters.

yes, many Tang Kis are actually possessed , without their knowledege.

I guess there are only certain eities that can and is willing to fall into trance for the medium to act on their behalf.

We heard of Guan Yin (or better known as Pu 4 Zou 4 Ma 4)

I heard from my friend that he visits this medium called Tua Ya Pek.

These are the deities that can allow mortal to be their medium.

I have heard that certain deities like Jade Emperor, Buddha Shakamuni do not and will never have a medium to fall into a trance for them.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 12:24:58 AM »

i have visited tang ki when i was young. It is at a shophouse located at defu lane area. my uncle,aunty and cousins n grandmother went there. My grand ma know the tang ki. I visited the dua ya peh and dee ya peh. but got another tang ki (wearing green clothe) . The dua ya peh ask me why i play fire n never behave my self all? i was like how did they know i did all this? or was it someone who tell them? they have a board of nails they say put my hand there i put they use the fan beat me. i was scared i cry then after the nails thing, the dua ya peh give me drink one tea and give me the longevity bun to eat.

They were scary, i remember when i went there another time, the person or messanger of the tang kis told us to wait at the entrance as the tang ki having rituals at the second floor.. I was so frightened as i can hear people singing the god song and rocking of chairs loudly and the ah peh shouting! after around4 am or so, they off job le they chnged to normal dress all .. i was releieved as that time i thought the ah pehs were real god but then i saw it was real human being. it is truly a scary thing.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 02:12:37 PM »

I loved following my father around since i was young.
We often went to different temples.
See their festival,
& different deities.
I am a very very picky eater.
I dont like meat dat isnt fried, & i love veggies.
But if it isn't cooked to my satisfaction,
i'll rather dun eat.
So, once,
my dad took me & asked th deity.
Den he said i am a very very picky eater.
i started wondering.
LOL.
Den,
all he said was real.
Even till now,
i Loved following my dad around to various temples.
yes Yes.
I know.
Im 16.
I shouldn't be tagging along wid my dad alr.
LOL.
But dis is th only way for me to see life,
& follow onto my hobbies.
LOL.
I loved seeing deities,
because,
dey are always der for ppl.
Advising dem.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 06:42:57 PM »

Okay Me too my dad got alot of friends who work as tang ki or yew keng one.


Last time i always follow my dad go for temple dinners or yew keng but now my dad busy i very less go see le.

Maybe we can organise JM outing to yew keng ?  n6
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 07:39:37 PM »

A true fact to share with you all on Tang ki. Do you know 7 out 10 tang ki are gangsters or ex-gangsters. 8 out of 10 tang ki has volunteered to serve the god. 3 out of 10 tang ki are not genuine.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »

LOL.
Ya lor.
I don't understand,
why people will go be 'Tang Ki' for not genuine reasons lor.
Just wasting his & people's time.
LOL.
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U organise, i thnk oso not many ppl will go lor.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 08:51:46 PM »

Because some gangster groups go ttheir own lion dance group or clan or tiao tang one.. then they organise yew keng. In the olden days, different gang group hokkien or teochew, they yew keng then when they meet they tak eout parang from the sedan chair and fight. I heard it from Jetson.  n30
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Those that don't understand about fake or in-genuine tang ki(s), please raise your questions. Thanks
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I would like to share with all of you something that is less known even to ppl who believes in Kang ki.

Do you know that the "beings" that enters & possesses mediums bodies are not the real god or deities, instead they are the representative or presentational of the real god & deities. For those ppls who has experience with various tang ki(s) would know that, the same god or deities would varies differently in different temples & different tang ki(s). I will explain that later on, if you are confused.

So who are those representative or presentational of the real god & deities? People like monks, priests, cultivated persons & people that do plenty of good deeds during their life, when they pass away they could be appointed to the various positions in the other realms (Hell, Heaven & Buddha land). They are then selected by the gods & deities to be their representative or presentational (代理/分身灵). Like agents representing the company or person. Besides choosing these appointed souls as the gods & deities representative or presentational (代理), enlightened spirits (精) could also be the right candidates. Then these representative will find the suitable person as the medium (Tang Ki or Ki Tang). There are also peoples that will also volunteer to be Tang Ki(s).

If you visits various temples with Tang ki(s), you will realizes that when the Tang ki(s) has represented or invited the same god/deities into their bodies, they will usually have very different characteristics, voice, props, even way of writing the talisman & etc. Some of the representatives that possesses the mediums are more powerful than others, that could because some of them have further their cultivation or has reach enlightenment. That's explains how it's possible to invite the same god at the same time in different temples. They are just the representative or presentational (代理) & not the real gods. Kang ki's are just like the gate of a portal or a media, if the protective procedures is not done properly, they could be possessed by wandering ghosts or other supernatural beings during the trance. They usually need to cleanse their bodies & protect the temple area to keep the unholy things at bay.

There are Tang Ki(s) that are real & authentic, they aims to relieve ppls that needs help. They will even help to heal & cure illness. And there are others that aims for fame & money. There is a possibilities whereby an authentic Tang ki will no longer be able to invite the god's representative because he/she has done something wrong or the body is no longer clean. Then it depend on the tang ki whether he/she wants to continue the service. If the tang ki wants to continue, he/she has to do a good show in front of the believers. I have seen such cases before. Some mediums that practices incorrectly (走火入魔) or their body is unclean, it's also possible that they even get possessed by supernatural beings & they act as though they are the real thing. Instead of helping people, they aim for being worship by the believers.

The most common deities or god of the mediums service in Singapore (in hokkien names):
Guan Di Ye (关羽/关公/关帝爷 there are other names for him)
Tua Ye Peh & Dee Ya Peh (大爷伯 & 二爷伯. They are the hell gods)
Dai Sheng Ya (大圣爷/齐天大圣/孙悟空/斗战圣佛)
Lian Hui San Tai Zi (那咤/莲花三太子)
Zai Zai (散财童子/红孩儿)
Guan Ying Ma (观世音菩萨/观音娘娘)
Tua Peh Gong (大伯公/福德正神/正财神)

In the past my family members used to go consult them frequently or whenever we are met with troubles or supernatural issues. Only a few of them are very helpful, some are not & many are con-man. So beware, stick to one temple if the medium service is good. Don't tell them too much of yourself or your problems. If the medium is fake, they will know how to make you believe in their in-genuine powers. Just like fortune-tellers, if you tell them too much, they will know how to handle you in order to make you believe they are damn accurate & let you believe in this & that.

My mum has been bring me to this temple called Po Ann Keng since I was a baby. I was very weak & always ill when I was young. She plead the god to accept as the god-son & only after a few tries then the god accepted me. Besides giving me talismens & providing blessing for my health, the old medium has a secret elixir that could cure most minor sickness. The medicine is very demanding among the believers & not easy to prepare. But when the old medium passed away, no one is taking over the preparations of this wonderful medicine. Until today, the temple has operated more than over 50 years & has make swift several times. Now it's residing at Tampines road. Along the stretch of temples. It's very near to where I stay & just opposite Tampines Ikea. The temple is a merge between three different temples, but Po Ann Keng has the biggest space of all. The main god of the temple is 齐天大圣, but not just one 大圣爷 but five. I was told that the center one is the real 齐天大圣, the other four is his subordinates (东天大圣, 南天大圣, 西天大圣 & 北天大圣). They are also in the form of the monkey god.

Very truth, I believe that some tang ki are bluffing people. Act in front of everyone. I always thought its the real god that possesses the tang ki. What you said make sense to me.

KL got many big & small sin tuah or temple that has tang ki. Very common over here. Sometimes I will follow my auntie to visit the temple she works in. Her work is consider voluntary, she is one of the helper for the tang ki. The god the tang ki work for is guan teh ye/guan gong. This guan teh ye very accurate & he often help the believers strike lottery.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 05:17:42 PM »

oh okay (; thanks  n6 maybe i want to go malaysia and see the tang ki and yew keng.
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